[Theqoo] BaekhyunBar sent 6 trucks to support Baekhyun

Theqoo:

- But I don't know why you guys are mocking the fans like this. Maybe you want to relieve stress by cursing at other people, but this feels like you transfer your ego to SM and rely on them to restore your lost self-esteem and you are satisfied by finding something to mock rightfully. If Baekhyun leaves EXO, does it harm people? Did you become a justice apostle for ethical reasons? But nothing at all has been decided, and SM has precedent for being more problematic. It's not fun to curse at the company, it's fun to curse at people or whatever, but I feel bitter as a person who has experienced it..

- Why are people mocking the fans?

- But why do you even mock the fans?

- If it's his individual fandom, and when their idol has a dispute with his company, of course fans will support their idol. What are the fans guilty for that you are mocking them?

- I have no idea what’s going on, but as a muggle it’d be great if someone cheer for me like that.

- His fanbase is really strong. I’m a fan of another artist.

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Do not trust SM

Pann:

OP: As a ex-Cassiopeia, this issue gave me trauma that I didn't read EXO articles on purpose. But as I read articles since it became big on Pann, SM-ah, why is it the same as when you did to us back then?

Back then, SM also said that the contract has been revised five times then renewed by mutual agreement. Talking about the Fair Trade Commission, they also did media play about the foreign luxury cars. SM said they also got informed about cosmetics business as outside forces. I'm so disgusted with that company.

I won't be checking any more articles later, and whatever they say the conclusion is at least not trusting SM.

Fans, remember that SM have a lot of capital and are manipulative.

They have got a lot of bad records and what they have to hide has got a lot more.

I'm sure that SM has already operated automation program, manipulated the views, and written posts on all kinds of communities. It would be even way more worse when they are with Kakao.

They will frame the members as traitors, but do not be carried along by them, and not to visit communities at least until the issue is over.

This is my advice. EXO fans must be under a lot of stress. You must remember that if there is a fandom split, only the group and fans will be affected. 

- I have been a fan of SM's idol for a long time, EXO fans, hear my words. If you want to protect the group, support CBX and don't be fooled by SM's media play. What the OP says is all true. It would be great if CBX and fans unite and fix SM's habits properly. Earning a lot of money isn't everything for the kids. Even now there are still kids that are suffering from digesting murderous schedule because of the contract. Of course, it is the path they chose, but still, the heavy burden on them in the name of responsibility is so cruel.

- Now the anonymous communities are full of posts written by those people who have been always wanting to hate on the members pick up information here and there + those employees pretending to be the public meanwhile I’m sure the public isn't interested in this issue right now + individual fans and akgaes. I can see that those 3 groups of people pretend to be fans and manipulate the public opinion. Fans who likes the group, and fans who like the 3 members tried to defend them but no one hear them, so just they are just ignoring the ridiculous posts. And I know those fans who are still in doubt are silently following up. Honestly up until recently, it draws this much attention from trolls but I'm still wondering if there are still any fans here, let's find strength.

 

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Why do people think SM manipulate communities’ comment section

Pann: 

OP said it’s funny that people think that SM is manipulating the communities’ comment section when they don’t even bother to sue hateful posts or rumors on Pann for their artists.

- Are you an idiot? It’s selective action, isn’t it? They only involve in issues where they need to mobilize part-time employees, they don’t pay attention to unnecessary things.

- Does SM even care about hateful posts on their singers? They are doing this now because the issues target at the company itself.

- When does SM even care about hateful posts? It’s fkcing funny. If they really care, Pann would have been closed 10 years ago.

- You think SM pretty much care about hateful posts on their singer? lol they concern about their own company’s image after so many lawsuits that they do media play trying to put the blame on others. The issues can’t even compared.

- Eh this comparison itself is already wrong. It’s not about hateful posts on singers, but it's basically about singer is going against the company and it can cause damage to the company's image. That’s why people are talking about it’s SM doing media play or part-time employees etc.

- Have you ever seen SM filing a lawsuit (on the hateful posts on behalf of their artists)? They don’t care about those hateful posts. They just rush out because they think their image would be ruined.

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[Pann] Public opinion on B is so different from Pann and Twitter

Pann:

- Pann's reaction just has never been good with whatever Baekhyun does, right? Even whenever he does something that is viewed positively in other platforms, people on Pann blindly hate on him the most. No need to care about it because it's always like this here.

- Comments from platforms like Instagram, Facebook are good, which make me surprised. They are so different from the communities.

- I just can tell people are staying silent until the day they have the final result, the public opinion would change later.

- I think you can just view Pann as the opposite of the reality. The rest of the communities is a place that changes sides all the time, and real fans all just wait until the results come out, right? Everyone just doesn't say anything.

- It's okay to view Nate Pann as a place that was taken over by the company's employees.

- So barely 700 comments? Can those 700 people be the representatives? And I heard people are selling IDs on Theqoo recently though. Who would believe words from Theqoo? It's been a while since I didn't believe it. Why are you keep saying Theqoo Theqoo LOL

- What are you bragging about when you don't even have your own opinion, but following other people's reaction from the communities? And so what about Theqoo and Pann bla bla bla?

- Has Pann ever reacted to Baekhyun positively since the first place? I know it's has been always in the bad side.

- Pann has always been bad.. It's not once or twice in the past that Baekhyun has been dragged into something that he has nothing to do with. It's better not to expect any nice responses from here.

- Usually there are people who are active on several communities. If there are people who don't join any, they just don't join, so they don't pay attention to Pann or Theqoo's reaction. So if those are writing hateful comments here, they are also writing the same in other communities. The results will come out anyway, so wait and see who's at fault.

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[Twitter] New statement from CBX (Viral tweet)

Twitter: New statement from CBX

- Woah, I can't believe EXO also receives a contract proposal like this. It's insane. Seriously what did SM even think about while running the company until now?

- It's SM who made gaslighting and threatening remarks, so why is Baekhyun being criticized? The settlement and the slave contract are suspicious, so why is Baekhyun being criticized?

- This is why I don't stan SM's idols. The company has such mindset like this and there's no reason why the idols don't stand up against them. It's like it would be hard to stan them for a long time in the first place... I see that SM is the top 1 company that doesn't see idols as human.

- But SM is supposed to provide the data though. So they just sit on their hand and then hurry to fix it up? Their media play made it look like they would provide right away the data, is it?…and LOL the pink blood employees, please hang in there with the power of pink blood!!!

- Which on earth company doesn't let you see the settlement data... Usually, if you input your ID password on the company site, your paystub is made available at any time and you can also save and print it out freely...

- This is how a company that runs with Chinese capital money look like. SM's specialty is to raise idols in the first place not as artists but as dolls who listen to them obediently so that the idols can't think and just obey that company's words. The moment idols have their own ego, it turns into hell.

- It's not like they have to provide physical copy, they can just copy the settlement file and send the attached file. It's ridiculous to see those crazy people worrying about the SM staff in front of the photocopier.

- SM said they would provide the settlement data and it was widely reported to the media but they haven't provided, and people are defending them saying it's something which cannot be done within a day LOL It's really too funny.

- Do those that are defending SMP saying the data cannot be prepared within a day have the company's stock? Or what would they get? Fck, SM would be such a fcking crazy company if they only started preparing the data just now, right? Anyway what SM has given to you that you let yourselves be controlled like this?

- The data should have been given twice a year in the first place, but they didn't prepare it and only now they said they would prepare and make a copy, so doesn't that mean that they have no intention to provide it from the beginning?

- I agree that they might not get the data copy ready within a day, but the members already asked for it 7 times and they haven't sent it out yet. If you're going to defend them, at least learn a bit.

- What the hell are the people who worry about SM's employees? This is seriously fcked up. What have they been up to? They haven't prepared it yet? It's the law that they need to provide the settlement data twice a year, so doesn't that mean they didn't want to provide it in the first place that's why they didn't prepare for it.

- What they told Baekhyun is really shocking.

- It would be nice that they just could leave such a shitty company.

- Is it okay for such a big company to do all these? fcking crazy SM.

- That this happened to a single group already made me angry, but the thought that the victim would be several groups makes me even angrier. Theytake the kids and what are they doing to them? Is SME a joke?

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[Theqoo] CBX's new statement

Theqoo: CBX's new statement

- Did you guys really read everything before leaving comments?

- I wonder if the above users already read everything before leaving comments? Because if you read everything, you will understand everything. Why does my heart hurt?

- I cheer for the 3.

- What they told Baekhyun is obviously gaslighting.

- I read the article and understand though. It's better to wait before criticizing any side.

- But I don't know much, so I won't say much.. It's so scary that the reaction in the comment section is different whenever there are new posts. I wonder if everyone understands the whole situation and is reading all the content? At first, you guys said SM played emotional appeal, but now you said CBX is playing emotional appeal.. Everyone, be careful not to let the public opinion manipulate you!

- That they told Baekhyun that he had to sign so that the members could receive deposit is truly gaslighting.

- Is everyone leaving a comment after reading everything? I'm reading the post and I want to ask how long does it take to read it all.. Why are you guys appear like trolls??

- That they told Baekhyun that he had to sign so that the members could receive deposit proves that SM openly confirmed that Baekhyun is one-top in EXO.

- The 3's fans must be seriously upsetting now. I hope you leave the community and take care of your health.

- It is well explained though. I don't know why they are getting bashed.

- Just my personal opinion but I think CBX should consider changing their lawyer before going to court. Hwaiting anyway!

- I hope they proceed legal action.

- I'm fully convinced by their statement, but the comments are so weird. I swear that I'm a fan of another artist and I don't know why the 3 members are being criticized. 

- I can sympathize at some parts and I can't agree on some parts. It's my honest opinion.

- Just take legal action. If they felt that the contract they already signed was unfair, and if they wanted to terminate it now, the only way is to file a lawsuit... SM have been like that for a long time, they take advantage of trainees and make the trainees sign an additional three-year contract without a detailed plan... It's the situation where I can't trust the company, so I won't hold it anymore.. Anyway the only option is to file lawsuit.

- Woah... seeing you blaming these three people even after reading this post, I can't help but wonder it's SM's staff. 

- Really I'm not even a fan and I'm not interested in them, but it's suspicious that they are being criticized like this.. The post is that long, but why are you bashing them and telling them to leave in less than a minute..

- Just for their own good, I hope they don't mention anyone else because others may use it against them.

- As I read the post slowly, I understand the members' side, but those ignorant people who have been bashing the members and side with SM all day long today must be embarrassed that they are like ~Ah I don't know~ and just bash them first, right?

- SM is famous for gaslighting.. They don't change

- I understand CBX though.

- Is SM pulling out all their part-time staff?

- If you read the comments, there's a difference between workers and non-workers LOL.

- I hope they avoid using emotion appeal. Just throw out facts.

- Eh no but why do you feel sorry for the employees (who have to prepare the data)? They should have been prepared and revealed it, but they didn't prepare the data and didn't give it to the media press. They only said they would provide but they don't. I wonder why they don't give to the lawyer.

- Look at all the comments. They are really so funny. Don't all idols from other companies re-sign for 7 years? LOL Why is it still fair that SM insists with 10 years for the same purpose?

- CBX hwaiting!!

- If I were a fan, and when I heard SM saying Baekhyun had to sign a contract so that the other members can get this much deposit, I would feel sorry for Baekhyun too and I would be angry at SM who treats other members like that first, but I'm shocked at the reactions here.

- The comments are going the way SM wants. They work hard today.

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[Daum/Instiz] CBX side reveals that SM gaslighting when they renewed contract...thinking of EXO as top priority

Daum Cafe:

- Not surprising if it's SM. Rather than the company, I want to cheer for the members.

- SM is really good at media play.

- Sm being good at media play is their specialty. I'm not even surprised. I cheer for the members.

- I have never trusted SM's words since the beginning. Their emotional media play isn't new so what's the reason for trusting SM? There are a lot of victims, but I have never seen SM as a victim…

- I was amazed when people believe in SM's media play. They have got a quite 'brilliant' record.

- I wonder what statement SM is going to release after this.

- I don't really like EXO because of some old Eris. But I feel bad for them as employees.

- I don't trust SM.

Instiz: 

- It seems the part-time employees are working hard.

- They have been working hard since morning.

- LOL those sh*t SM's part-time employees.

- The part-time employees are so obvious that it's disgusting. EXO Hwaiting.

- You asked so why did they renew the contract? They may value the team. You should bash the company that makes such contract. Those are bashing (the members), wake up!

Theqoo:

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[FMKorea] Some old articles from male-dominated site

FMKorea is a male-dominated site, mostly sport fans

FMKorea: (June 1st, 2023, 147k views)

- Losing Baekhyun would cause such great damage though, to both EXO and SuperM.

- Baekhyun that guy alone is already top class. 

- Baekhyun’s very popular.

- I know that Baekhyun alone sold over 1 million of 2 albums each. He is such an important presence in EXO, so I don’t know why he gets such treatment. 

- Baekhyun is the most popular in EXO though. This is such great damage. 

- Baekhyun is so popular to the extent there is a saying “Everyone loves Baekhyun aside from their bias” though. Who knows this would happen.

- Baekhyun’s still so popular. When I was in middle school. The girls liked Baekhyun. He’s kind of cute type. 

- Baekhyun is well known as the core of the group. Isn’t he the immovable position in EXO? When I was in middle school, everyone said Baekhyun when they were asked which member they liked the most.

- SM still has the same problem. They are continuously controversial. They even did this to the artists who are with them for 10 years. 

- SM is doing media play complaining that the members recently met MC Mong through personal relationships and it's obvious that they are taking advantage of the bad image of MC Mong.

- SM is still doing such bullsh*t?

- It’s this severe for EXO, how more severe would it be for other artists?

- It’s already questionable when SM always have problems with money and contracts. It’s not something new.

- I like CBX's songs like Blooming Days and Hey Mama.

- It seems like the hoobaes from the same company also have a lot of dissatisfaction, and they (CBX) step out as representatives.

FMKorea: (June 1st, 2023, 156k views)

- Baekhyun is probably the most popular here with his singing. 

- Baekhyun is a cash cow even when he goes solo.

- Isn't Baekhyun the most popular in EXO?

- SM always have issue with contracts.

- Baekhyun is a core member of the group though.

- Baekhyun is the main presence of EXO in reality.

- Isn't Baekhyun the main vocalist of EXO?

- These 3 members are very good at singing though.

- Heol I like CBX among EXO's subunits. They have many good songs. Cherish and For You are really good.

- SM again tsk tsk.

- They have to keep the settlement details transparent.

- SM is so unlikable.

- It makes no sense not to provide data on the basis of settlement.

- SM tradition.

FMKorea: (June 1st, 2023, 329k views)

- SM never changes.

- What are even 10-, 20-year contracts though.

- Even though this issue keeps popping up, they are good at media play as a big company, so it still works well for them.

- Baekhyun is the most popular in EXO. He's so handsome in Love Shot. Most of the people around me still like EXO because of Baekhyun. Baekhyun is a core member. His solo songs are so good.

- They are so evil.

- Baekhyun is still constantly so popular. He sold a million copies alone.

- Aside from being a core member, Baekhyun is not only one of the best solo R&B vocalist, but also one of the best singers in South Korea.

> His voice is unreal...His tone is so nice...

> You know music well. Listening to Baekhyun's solo albums and they are masterpiece of domestic R&B.

- Singer like Baekhyun who has both singing skills and face is rare.

- I like his song Bambi.

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[Theqoo] Lin Law Firm reveals that they have officially filed a complaint with Fair Trade Commission against SM and requested full investigation

Theqoo: Lin Law Firm reveals that they have officially filed a complaint with Fair Trade Commission against SM and requested full investigation on SM's exclusive contracts

- Seriously, do a full investigation.... they are such a company full of problems.

- Aside from not giving them the settlement details, this is also a real problem.

- This is seriously a slave contract. It's crazy.

- I hope this is the beginning of the search for rights for SM artists. I support your act of courage.

- They will investigate, and if there is no problem, they will say there is no problem. Why are you fans already letting yourselves be controlled by the company? With this opportunity, as fans, I think it would be good to check if other artists were harmed as well.

- They are doing full investigation, but why are fans of other artists scrambling here? Isn't this so nice? If there's a problem, isn't it good to fix it and do it fairly for your artists? 

- This is the situation where I see the idols are victims, so why are you on SM's side?? Investigation isn't bad for the idols.

- Eh? I'm SM's idol stan and I thought it was cool of them to stand up for this. Just imagining that they don't pay my kids properly..

And isn't this the way to make them be transparent in the future...

- I can't believe you have problem with them talking about other artists in general. Like you guys don't think such thing happens to your idols too?

- I'm a SM's idol stan and what's wrong with a full investigation?

- I'm a different SM's idol stan and I want to make sure my idols don't have slave contract like this.

- If they have no problem, full investigation is no problem, right? Even if they do it, there's nothing to harm other artists, right? Why are the fans getting angry at the investigation, but not at the company?

- There are so many SM employees here who work without getting paid LOL

- No, I'd like to investigate and see if my idols are harmed...

- The comments are so weird like they didn't mention any artist name though and is there any reason to be angry at a full investigation?

- Other SM stans are shielding SM LOL Are you sure that your own artists don't have a problem.

- Isn't a full investigation good for other artists?

- What's wrong with the comments? That's why SM is still doing all this. CBX is cool! They are taking the lead!!

- I don't understand...Isn't it good to investigate and find out that the unfair contracts of the artists are unfair? Shouldn't we be thankful? I don't know if you are a fan of SM or a fan of idols. I don't even know if it's right that you are SM fans.

- Of course, they have to do a full investigation. My idol is from SM too, so thank you.

- Seriously this is really like SM's gaslighting level. That's why SM has been the same all this while.

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